The Greens’ Radical Agenda for Australia

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Fiona 01/07/11 07:08 AM Report Abuse

This is scary stuff ... How do the greens expect small business to survive? Get in the real world!

Barry 01/07/11 07:33 AM Report Abuse

Makes you want to think about moving overseas. The Greens & Labour need to look around the world and see how some countries with 10 to 20 times our population handle things. Used to think this was the lucky country. Don't let the Greens turn it into the unlucky country.

Dr Gordon Cheyne 01/07/11 07:35 AM Report Abuse

Agenda 21 scares me: a new world order of "governance" pretty well means giving up all our rights. Border and National security? Forget it!

"Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment."

Sue 01/07/11 07:45 AM Report Abuse

We MUST get an early election called, I have a small business that employs over 20 staff, if they go ahead with this, I will seriously think about leaving Australia, I am not proud to be Australian any more. I challenge Ms Gillard or Mr Brown to come and run my business for one week, come and see the real world when you can't just go and borrow money from China! When I work 16 hours per day, 7 days per week and my staff get more money than I do! What sort of society are we living in? are we the next Greece? I am thinking that with these idiots in charge we will be!
If it was not for our mining sector, this country would be in a dreadful recession, however, if these two jokers stay in power we will see a recession like no other! CALL AN EARLY ELECTION! SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT!

James Nelson 01/07/11 07:52 AM Report Abuse

Its simple, socialists want what the rich have worked for without paying for it. These guys are GREEN! GREEN with jealousy and sour to the core. That's the socialist agenda. "LEMONS"

K Green 01/07/11 08:09 AM Report Abuse

Simplistic Idiots who could not run a brothel with a fistfull of money

Steve 01/07/11 08:11 AM Report Abuse

Most people think that the greens are just tree huggers but some of us have know for years what the greens really stand for. Its about time they were exposed for the ratbag socialists/commie nutcases they really are. Labour is to scared to expose the looney policies of the greens because they need their votes so its all up to you Tony, go in and attack them and let the Australian population know who they really are.

anthonyjlob 01/07/11 08:21 AM Report Abuse

We should demand that the governor general take action now and sack the labour party goverment now before it is to late .
And if she does not sack her too.
Time for Australians rally in all citys to stop this.

kath 01/07/11 08:22 AM Report Abuse

WE NEED AN EARLY FEDERAL ELECTION NOW !!

James 01/07/11 08:23 AM Report Abuse

I just hope and pray you can help us Tony, these guys are tragics !

STEVE GRAPSAS 01/07/11 08:23 AM Report Abuse

How frightening, forget about Tony wanting to reintroduce work choices , see what the Greens Workplace Relations Policies will do for the Australian Industry, one thing DESTROY IT.

The Australian people will finally see them for what they really are, a bunch of radicals with co coherent policies at all

Barry 01/07/11 08:27 AM Report Abuse

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Vince Schultz 01/07/11 08:27 AM Report Abuse

Bring on a double dissolution, this is not worth the pain..

James 01/07/11 08:38 AM Report Abuse

Pass me a paper bag, I am going to throw up. I will see a US immigration specialist today to try find and way out of here. This is a very dark time for the "lucky country" that is not so lucky anymore. All we can do is pray for Tony's success otherwise it looks increasingly hopeless as the current account is plundered and the country sets course for a never ending Japan style recession. Get Rid of These Idiots NOW !

Boiling Frog 01/07/11 08:48 AM Report Abuse

The Greens want an end to the society we know and cherish.
All these policie aren't an end in themselves- they're a means to an end.
That end is a utopian dream hatched in the drug-dazed era of the late sixties and seventies when Brown and his cohorts were tuning in , turning on and dropping out.
They had a vision and a dream which couldn't happen over-night.
Their method is the Fabian tactic of a slow but definite transformation to the
Green Socialist ideal. But they won't stop at Australia- ol' Khaki himself said at the
NPC Lunch the other day his dream was one world "democratically-elected" one vote, one value government. We've seen the mess the Greens have inflicted in the Eurozone ,we don't want the same here. We're at the vanguard here and the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. We need to get out and let everyone we know the danger these people pose. Its the crossroads for Australia.

Cliff 01/07/11 08:54 AM Report Abuse

Here we go - down the slippery slope of Greece. Australia, wake up, the freedom to live in the lucky country is about to end. Gillard, Brown and the rest of these idiots are going to destroy this country and turn us all into backwater commo/socialists with no industries or wealth. Hope you know the words to 'Kumbai-ya' and can hold hands and wear hippy beads. Thats all there is going to be left. Shame, shame, shame. We am moving to Thailand while we have a couple of dollars left.

J Nicola 01/07/11 09:01 AM Report Abuse

I have not heard one word about what the greens intend to do for the pensioners of this country, it is as if we do not exist as far as the greens are concerned, I just hope that we have an election as soon as possible to get Australia back on track.

thomas mitchell 01/07/11 09:08 AM Report Abuse

Frankly I am very into alternative enery and appropriate technology ideas, but frankly the greens have no real greta ideas in this area.

Where were the Greens or anyone when australian designed and developed mild stones like themral solar and the vanadian redox batter floder and go overseas.

Wiht the above you dont need nucaler power and could start getting rid of cload fired solution over 10-15 years easily and we would not have to suffer at all. The vanadaium redox batter could alrrady stored all off peak powwer for use the next day, so amazing is this technology first relaeased in 1986 and once again let go by us colletive stupid australains dad the governements we vote into power.

I think now we have the change in the senate, the australians who did not think about their poltical choices enough have now subjected all of us to this rubbish for 6 years unless we have a double dissolution.

I buld and export testing machiens and frankly this country is one of the worst places in the world to export from anyway without a high dollar and a lack lustre trade dept ( austrade) , someone should go and see how good Taiwans Taitra is.

The greens will stuff the place, I am already thinking of a factory in the usa. trades people half the price and will want a job, next to the market. There are already too many hassles for business here , let alone what the greens want to do..

I wont suck it in for the greens , that agenda will turn me into avery vocal person and I will be having my say in this democracy we keep going on about.

Andrew Barker 01/07/11 09:10 AM Report Abuse

This is not the Greens agenda for Australia, it is the Greens agenda AGAINST Australia!

brian 01/07/11 09:12 AM Report Abuse

DOUBLE DISSOLUTION NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This situation is so serious we all must fight against these ratbags and toss them out NOW!!!!
petition the Queen to SACK THE GG.She is a labor stuge!

R. Drummond 01/07/11 09:16 AM Report Abuse

to Nicola re pensioners: Though Bob Brown might not yet be thinking that he'll be old himself one day, Greens see the pensioner as an incumbrance on society and judging from their own declared twist on ethics, perhaps their eugenics strategy will be the proposed economic strategy.

L.Lilley 01/07/11 09:29 AM Report Abuse

Brown and his communist cronies will solve the "Boat People" issue: no-one would want to come and live in a country to which the Greens aspire. Wake up Australia: kick Brown and Gillard out!

Wendy F 01/07/11 09:29 AM Report Abuse

I feel so totally and utterly powerless!
The majority of the people did not vote for this!

The system, to allow this to happen. is broken.
The Greens should not have this power and Australia is now in great danger.

For the sake of all of us please please DO SOMETHING!!!!!
STOP THE CARBON TAX.
STOP THE GREEN SOCIALIST AGENDA.

Dennis Foo 01/07/11 09:48 AM Report Abuse

I thought the function of the Senate and its Senators are to reprresent the interest of the State as independent member to check on the GOvernment. Since when is the Senate a part of the Government, as in this case, there's an incompetent PM, useless Cabinet and the Government without backbone.

Why is the Greens allowed to drive govern the country and not the Government. Are they part of the Government who can dictate policies and set national agenda?

Scary stuff. Is it possible to have a double disolution to decimate the Greens?

Regards

Murray 01/07/11 09:55 AM Report Abuse

Well, we get the parliment we deserve. So, it seems that the Australian nation voted to become a third world (maybe even a 4th world) country run by donkeys. Please don't back down Tony.

James Tsaoucis 01/07/11 09:58 AM Report Abuse

I am, as most, are sick of this im-pass we are at. We need a majority Govt, one way or the other . Would someone whisper very loudly to the MP's holding the balance that they will get a lot more credit for themselves if they contribute to forcing an election much sooner than later. Martin Place to-day 1/7/11 is the place to be to be counted in this part of the battle!!

Leslie Farlam 01/07/11 10:35 AM Report Abuse

This sounds like a message I heard way back in 1935 from a man called Adolf whose sole intention was to rule the world. The world dealed out just punishment for him and his lackeys. Anothe man wanted his religious philosophy to also gain control of the world and has met the same fate due in no small measure to dissent from within. Bo is Brown , thinks he is Green but has a BLACK HEART. He WILL FAIL.

Travis Gilbert 01/07/11 10:38 AM Report Abuse

Of course much better and more "Liberal" to gaol people for the personal use of cannabis for medical reasons. I firmly believe people with MS, cancer and glaucoma should rot in gaol for possession of 3 joints.

AGG 01/07/11 10:39 AM Report Abuse

Surely the way forward is not extreme and unthinking ultra-reactionism to what is clearly an unworkable Greens philosophy nor fussy focus on Labor's long-term lack of management skills. The way forward is the enunciation of a clear vision for a truly Liberal Australia - one which supports this current generation to a level consistent with our own reasonable comfort and the future of our descendents.

Get Real NOT Green! 01/07/11 11:21 AM Report Abuse

Call an Election Now! This is outragous and will kill small business and hurt everyone. For the first time in my life I am worried about being my children and myself being an Australian and I don't have another country!!

Greenie 01/07/11 11:37 AM Report Abuse

If you believe the Libs, you're more stupid than George Bush.

Jen M 01/07/11 11:59 AM Report Abuse

The GREEN agenda will be the undoing of life as we know it. If you think it is tough now.... just imagine if Bob Brown's Agenda takes root! Diabolical !

This GREEN agenda information should be plastered in Newspapers, on advertising billboards at bus stops - where ever we can find ..... so that the population can read it and be warned.

The GREENS are like WATERMELONS .... 'green' on the outside but 'red' on the inside.

Come on Tony! We're waiting for you to stir this Nation into action and expose the real truth behind what Bob Brown and the GREENS stand for.

John I 01/07/11 12:56 PM Report Abuse

The Green's agenda reflects Communist Dictatorship. Can't understand how anyone can elect loonies into Parliament?

Genevieve 01/07/11 01:08 PM Report Abuse

Green my a***! They clearly have no idea of what is acceptable in this country. They conveniently forget that is is the businesses that bring in the income for all the things that they want to do. Kill the businesses, kill their own agendas. How stupid.

Pack the lot of 'em off to the looney bin and lock 'em up!

Andrew 01/07/11 01:16 PM Report Abuse

If you think the Federal Green's policies are bad, start looking at the State Party's policies. The Queensland Green's have a policy, contained in their "Water Policy: Measures" that states, "Implement a program to cap all bores".

Just imagine the impact that will have on the sheep, cattle and grazing industries of Queensland? Just imagine what impact it will have on the towns that really wholly and solely on Bore water for their water needs? Just imagine the impact that will have on the energy creation needs of inland Australia? Especially considering that the artesian basin has just been completely refilled by one of the largest floods in living memory?

Apparently the Green's don't consider the human beings of this country, nor do they care about the imports, the GDP, the jobs, or anything else. They are blind eco-terrorists on a communist agenda and are linking themselves with a weak socialist party who have lost their way.

For those of you considering voting Green, go to your State's Green Party website and thoroughly read their policies and make sure that you understand what they REALLY stand for. Make sure you know EXACTLY what you are voting for. Then vote for a coalition party candidate to get a REAL government going.

Trevor Meyer 01/07/11 02:10 PM Report Abuse

The liberals have no idea how to create wealth, just look after their greedy mates. Productivity decreased under Howard, you lot have no enlightened poliies and continue to follow the dumb Americans on almost everything. They are a failed nation and we do not wish to join them.

carrob 01/07/11 02:16 PM Report Abuse

actually some (but not all) of these ideas are pretty good.

marge 01/07/11 02:18 PM Report Abuse

Thanks very much to those idiots who voted for the Labor/Green Government who are by destroying our wonderful country, every thing they touch turns into a major disaster.
Why are they not looking after the Australian people first ?
Why does Liberal Scott Morrison seem to be the person doing anything about the boat people/Malaysia debarcle?
Leave Julia in place and bring on a Federal Election now.

thetrureal 01/07/11 02:43 PM Report Abuse

Well both the fake ALP and the Liberals worship the business elites and ruling classes, so who is left to favour and fight for the majority “the Greens” what is wrong with cutting the massive tax subsidies for the business elites that is paid by the majority of tax payers? Why should the born privilege live off upper class welfare while the real hard working skilled educated Australia are treated like dirt from their employers. Small business will always struggle because of the ruling classes as the banking elites own your business and your life. Both the ALP and the Liberals have failed the Australia people as they both are scared of the ruling classes and just can’t be bothered to fix the problems and get our fair share because they know that the voting sheep will keep voting for them, but this time it is different, so more power to the Independents and minor parties because the main 2 have failed and will keep failing us until we take action!

Sharon 01/07/11 04:27 PM Report Abuse

If the Greens get any of their policies through, it will mean utter disaster for this, what has been to date, a fabulous country, one to be proud of and part of.

When I read these policies Tony, I am terrified of what the future could hold for us. Please let's do all we can to make it impossible for these B----s to gain any form of power. If they do, then me aand my business will depart these shores.

lad 01/07/11 05:41 PM Report Abuse

Greens socialist agenda will lead us disaster.

Colin Hatcher 01/07/11 05:48 PM Report Abuse

What a nightmare , we all need to make the effort to get rid of them , they even have infilturated local council as we recently found out and you can not get anything done in the worse state , Tasmania ,

watty 01/07/11 06:16 PM Report Abuse

Has this come as a surprise in the "Bunker"? I and many colleagues in the resources industry have been trying to draw attention to the political agenda of the Green Movement for more than 30 years but our advice seemed to fall on barren soil..Some of our major players even thought they could mollify the Greens and on occasion hopped into bed with them.

Having seen the Greens in action first hand in Canada,U.S.A., U.K, France,Germany,and Australia Ican assure you Brown and Milne mean business. In fact I would be more scared of Milne with her international contacts.

It's on...and we better win.

Mike 01/07/11 06:52 PM Report Abuse

They are obviously not too bright as they havent heard yet, that communism and dictatorships dont work as china & russia and others found out

Barry Atkinson 01/07/11 07:29 PM Report Abuse

I worked hard all of my life, paid my taxes and everything was coming together very well for our family in what I call "The Lucky Country". Remember Donald Horne, Author? He wrote the book and there has been a sequel called "The Lucky Country Revisited". Now we need another called "The Lucky Country in Chaos"!!! Australians all wake up!!! We are about to be denied our heritage and our rights. Surely if we are still a "Democratic" nation a Referendum needs to be held and the views of every Australian need to be heard. Born in 1947 I know about the "Sheeps Back" which is what our country first developed on, now it is Private Industry set up by the Mums and Dads of our beloved country. I for one am not prepared to see the work of hundreds of thousands of Australians destroyed literally and will fight long and hard to prevent this fiasco continuing! The policies set out do not accord with "world's best practice" and Australia should not be on a mission of Ego based "We will show the world how to do things"!!! Let the people speak or suffer the consequences forever!!!

JBN 01/07/11 08:33 PM Report Abuse

may God have mercy on my son and not let him reap the seeds that we have alowed to be sown. F@@K the greens >:(

Patricia Smith 01/07/11 08:33 PM Report Abuse

My god, they are dangerous. Why on earth do these Senators have six years to sit there and destroy (as in the case of the Greens) everything that Australia has achieved. How does a Double Dissolution become possible> It would seem to be the only way to get back some sanity into Parliament and into the nation.

SAJ 01/07/11 09:21 PM Report Abuse

Beware of the "devil"! Brown is Satan in disguise......

Ian 01/07/11 11:51 PM Report Abuse

They with Labour are intent on destroting this country Why did our forbearers fight in the wars to bear these bad apples where are our statesmen aren't there any leaders left in this country.
Why dont they just give the country to the Muslims we dont seem to be supporting what our Soldiers Fought for come on Australians stand up for ourselves its about time to show our true colours Stand up against these aggressive traitors.
Its up to us all to do something to stop this degradation of our parliaments.

GB 02/07/11 12:04 AM Report Abuse

I would vote for any party with those policies -- they look like just what we need to get this country back on track. There is nothing 'radical' in those policies; in fact they look eminently rational, even if they have been cherry-picked to make some kind of unfathomable political point.

Of course, even with the new Senate it seems unlikely the Greens will be able to get any of them past the old parties, who will (as usual) vote together to maintain the status quo on all but the most insignificant reforms.

John W 02/07/11 12:33 AM Report Abuse

All the above comments miss a main point when they are (in despair) how can this all come about? - and that is that the Independents got the balance of power in the last election. Remember, that Gillard did NOT win the election but became PM and got Government only because of her negotiations with the Independents and the Marxist Green (Bandt). Of the Independents, most have National Party roots and presumably all of that lot will get thrown out next election. They were either incipient Labour supporters or were "sucked in" by the appalling NBN scheme (monopoly created on $36B+ of new borrowings). For those who want an election or a double dissolution or a change of government which does not actually require an election - go to work on the rural Independents. They're the ones who have inflicted all of this upon us. It's not too late. It just needs these Independents to change and to swing across to Tony Abbott.

David Bullock 02/07/11 01:59 AM Report Abuse

Is there an equally succinct statement of Liberal Party policy somewhere?

Susanne 02/07/11 09:48 AM Report Abuse

Bring on the election, and go LNP. I'm completely over the Labour and fractured independents. How long do we have to put up with the 'big brother' attitude to living well in Australia. Bring back the good times we experienced with the Howard government. Go Tony Go!

Mark Elliott 02/07/11 10:04 AM Report Abuse

If the Greens want to end the ANZUS treaty then they will have to significantly increase defence spending not reduce.

Michelle, Tasmania 02/07/11 10:53 AM Report Abuse

Mums & Dads of Australia unite - this is not the future we want to leave for our kids.

This is very dangerous stuff - every religious fanatic/criminal/anarchist/republican/anti-social/la la openness policy must have been written by social workers - not real people.

God help us if we allow this -' Green Fungus' to keep spreading.

I am a proud Australian 5th generation and I feel we are loosing our country!!!

James 02/07/11 11:18 AM Report Abuse

I am so sorry, I am loser as I have given up on this place. My only hope is a spark of life may come from Tony. I am an ashamed Australian without a place that I used to call home. HELP please.

Jill 02/07/11 12:41 PM Report Abuse

I am against preferential voting, when it gives minor parties the balance of power. I believe in looking after the environment, but when the Greens make it political, it has a different connotation.
Please bring on the Liberals!

RJS 02/07/11 02:25 PM Report Abuse

The Greens want all of us to freeze and starve in the dark

Sarina 02/07/11 03:23 PM Report Abuse

The Greens scare me.

Increasingly disaffected 02/07/11 03:57 PM Report Abuse

You can tell the Greens have really arrived on the political scene when this web site feels the need to go out of its way to demonise them as dangerous radicals. Last time I checked they still had less than 15% of the vote.

I know Tony loves a good scare campaign as much as the next demagogue, but let's put this in perspective: the Greens now have exactly 10 representatives in Federal parliament (that's 10 out of a total of 226 -- count them). They have exactly zero chance of doing any of the things commenters on this thread seem to fear so much.

I think commenters should take a look at the policies that are being presented as "radical" here. Would it really be so bad if we asked motorists to help cover the cost of congestion? And would the country grind to a halt if we asked mining companies to contribute their fair share in taxes? How about withdrawing government funding for "clean coal" research (which even industry now acknowledges is a pipedream)?

What I fear the most is that the Liberal party is being gradually hollowed out, to the point where it is no longer possible to simultaneously hold liberal social/economic perspectives and be a member of the party. To my eyes it looks like Greens are being used as a bogeyman to scare those of us who want to see the Liberals maintain the great tradition of liberalism -- we either toe the new party line (climate denial, vacuous stop-the-boats rhetoric, etc.) or we're obviously left-wing nutjobs and should just get out of the party.

Jeff 02/07/11 05:03 PM Report Abuse

The greens are a bunch of wankers pushing their alternative lifestyle choices on us like parasites feeding off the hardworking people's past efforts from previous generations, which made this country great. Imagine a "green" serving in the Defence forces or the Outback agriculture industry or anywhere where good old hard work and perseverence is required. Most of their heirarchy are theorists and "academiocs" who have never really done a hard days work in private enterprise just like 99% of the ALP front bench.

KYM 02/07/11 05:06 PM Report Abuse

Increasingly Disaffected 02/07/11 03:57 pm

You are obviously a left-wing nut-job so go hug a tree or rejoice in a Socialist blog were you can vent your trash talk.
The Greens are Marxist in their philosophy, and display the same totalitarian tendencies of all previous forms of Marxism when applied as a political movement. They will be very short lived in Australia as people here are waking up to these communist radicals every second of every day.

RJS 02/07/11 05:28 PM Report Abuse

They don't just want us to freeze and starve in the dark: they also want us to ride our wooden (plantation timber) bicycles along dirt tracks to welcome the increasing numbers of boat people they encourage to come to our shores, then give them our houses while we build our mud huts on the edge of dried up rivers and they smoke pot and force us to wait in ever lengthening queues for the most basic of health care, and execute anyone who dares ask to have a choice! It would be funny if it wasn't so real. Unfortunately they seem to have infiltrated the education profession and are brainwashing our kids. The three Liberal State Premiers need to start tackling the Greens educaton propaganda at primary school level or they really will succeed.

PeterSalt 02/07/11 06:21 PM Report Abuse

I am very disappointed that you did not mention the Greens policy to destroy marriage and the natural family through their support for same-gender marriage.
The fact that this is now being widely supported by Labor gives the coalition a great opportunity to show they really care for this basic building block of civilised society.
I am troubled that this was not mentioned – does it suggest the Coalition is going down the same path?
Normalising that which is clearly NOT normal – unnatural sex between two people of the same gender - will destroy not only the family but society as we know it.
The health costs alone will cripple the nation - 80%+ of HIV/AIDs patients and a much greater rate of STDs among homosexuals in Australia spells disaster for the economy!!!
Wake up coalition and take a stand.

cadel evans 03/07/11 01:16 AM Report Abuse

a test of your ineptitude

James 03/07/11 06:05 AM Report Abuse

If you can't fix this Tony we are rooted. Anti depressants are the only short term solution for me. I can't handle this madness so I have found turning off the news broadcasts helps me.

Sam 04/07/11 08:35 AM Report Abuse

I don't even know where to begin, perhaps they need to read George Orwills' 1984 very closely.

Alex 04/07/11 10:20 PM Report Abuse

Please Tony do what you can to stop this ridiculous carbon tax. I have a family with three
young children and I am worried about their future with what the current Gillard Govt is doing to our country.

James 05/07/11 06:12 AM Report Abuse

So death duties will be on the table next I guess. That's the socialist way.

Geoff Harry 05/07/11 09:37 AM Report Abuse

let we the people vote

Rachel 05/07/11 01:13 PM Report Abuse

Death duties have been a staple Greens (and Julia Gillard) policy for more than a decade, they used to have it on their website but they've since taken it down.

Death duties = the Govt taxes the geebuz out of you all your life, then you die and they steal half of what your estate is worth (and that includes your kids having to sell the family house to pay 50% death tax). This is pure Communism, and inately evil. They'll means test it (they LOVE means testing things - can't have those evil "rich" people getting any kind of break!), but only to begin with.

And don't forget their other favourite, and something that the WA State Labor Party (under Gallop/Carpenter and Eric Ripper as treasurer) tried to get passed a few years back - "RICH TAX" - taxing the family HOME. They'll means test that too, of course. They wanted it set at an annual 2% tax on the value of homes worth $1m + from memory - but again, they'll lower it. Old ladies who've lived in their homes in Scarborough for 60 years will have to sell their homes because they'll be unable to pay their tax bills. Again, pure evil.

PS - wtf is it with the Greens absolute utter hatred of America? The very country we would go running to if (or when?) we are invaded. It's truly baffling.

Stuart John 05/07/11 01:25 PM Report Abuse

As a geriatric couple, some of this incredible nonsense will not hurt us too much, but God help our kids and grandkids, because that maniac Brown , and his underling, Gillard, are hellbent on completely ruining Australia.
I will urge my family to get the hell out of here before it's too late.

RJS 05/07/11 11:17 PM Report Abuse

I know its not "politically correct" to say so, but the fact is the Greens are in fact a Fascist Party. They are authoritarian, prejudiced, intolerant of opposing views, uncompromising and, in their own way, militant. They go out of their way to indoctrinate youth and are totally careless about whose lives and livelihood they destroy in the pursuit of their beliefs. True, they do not currently try to use the forces of the State to impose their will on those who don't agree with them but that is only because they don't yet have the power to do so. Put them into power and anyone who opposes them will fear the knock on the door in the middle of the night. Only one good thought:after Tony wins the next election and they twice oppose legislation repealing the carbon tax he will be able to have a double dissolution and, one hopes, destroy them. In the meantime all who believe in freedom have to fight these nuts.

Glenn Sobey 06/07/11 11:33 AM Report Abuse

We need an election now, if not sooner. these policies will crush what little manufacturing we still have, as an owner medium size business in the manufacturing sector, i dont know how we will survive.

Fabian 06/07/11 04:29 PM Report Abuse

Greens in a nutshell. Oppose classical liberalism and free market capitalism. I guess the greens have to save us from ourselves. When you sit down, you can pretty much dismiss those greens (and ALP). What is with Bob Brown talking about some global people's assembly. Imagine if the Coalition said that. you would never hear the end of it from ALP, Greens and the media.

The "left wing" supporters prefer to bring down the middle-upper and upper class instead of bring the lower class and middle class up.
Next time ALP talks about negative campaigns bring up their ALP-Labor Union campaign against IR reform. Hypocrites?

Love it when an American supports the policies from Australia like
Google "Crikey, Australia’s a Good Role Model" by Daniel Mitchell from the Carto Institute. He also critised us on those stimulus packages too. Good youtube video against stimulus.

"Marginal tax rates are still far too high. The burden of government spending is lower than in the United States, but is still far too onerous. Nonetheless, the Aussies have made impressive strides in reducing the overall size, scope, and level of government interference and intervention. And this has translated into much better economic performance"

"So Australia is in the happy position of not having to worry too much about the pension implications of an ageing population… The supers…have created a pool of capital in Australia that might not otherwise have existed. Collectively worth about $1.3 trillion—much the same as GDP—they have made Australia the world’s fourth-largest market for pension savings."

"…By 2003 the effective rate of protection in manufacturing had fallen from about 35% in the 1970s to 5%. Foreign banks had been allowed to compete. Airlines, shipping and telecoms had been deregulated. The labour market had been largely freed, with centralised wage-fixing replaced by enterprise bargaining. State-owned firms had been privatised. …the double taxation of dividends ended. Corporate and income taxes had both been cut."

Never forget where classical liberalism and free market capitalism has gotten us.

fran 07/07/11 10:48 PM Report Abuse

When we let Julie Gillard's mutiny, against a people elected Prime Minister succeed, we welcomed a dictatorship goverment. I said then " we will get what we deserve." Sadly that seems true.

James 08/07/11 05:20 AM Report Abuse

Yes Fran...... You are exactly right ! For the 1st time I now see a major flaw in our system. God help us ! A minority government with a dictator rule, unbelievable.

Lynne. 08/07/11 03:26 PM Report Abuse

The only true wilderness area is between the ears of all the greens!
They are real lunatics and a danger to our once wonderful country.
The sooner we get rid of Julia Gillard and the greens (together with Tony Windsor and Rob Oakshot the better.

Tasgandy 08/07/11 04:10 PM Report Abuse

Tony with the Greens having the power in the Upper House all we can do now is to make sure that you and your team win the next election. Then when you have your bills for the "Broadband & Carbon Tax wind-back" knocked back twice in the Upper House, you can bring on a double dissolution, then we can reaffirm your Lower House win and replace the Green Senators at the same time. The downside is we have to wait and hold our breath for a couple of years and put up with the continuation of bad / mad decisions by the Gillard/Brown Government.

James 08/07/11 08:25 PM Report Abuse

And I used to think the yankee system was flawed, OH HOW WRONG I WAS. What a complete -u-- up this is. God help us Tony if you can't ! Maybe I can seek asylum in the US as a victim of political stupidity.

This is like a bad dream from a Freddy Kruger movie. "Nightmare on Green Street" where you can't wake up.

John Watson 09/07/11 03:18 PM Report Abuse

God help us if we have to live through 6 years of these clowns controlling the Upper House. There will be nothing left!

Will the last Green to leave Australia turn out the lights?

Wil Morgan 10/07/11 11:14 AM Report Abuse

I hope those that voted for the Labor Party and the Greens understand what they have done to this country, it's people and those that have died defending our way of life but, then again they voted for them so I guess there is no chance of that!
They are a most sinister lot and should never be trusted. I am extremely worried at what they will want to do in the future and the fact that the Labor Government has not the fortitude to call this unholy alliance off.

Nathan Bedford Forrest 10/07/11 01:46 PM Report Abuse

Well, this is simply terrifying. Congestion taxes? 50% tax brackets? Next they'll be seizing my grain and publicly hanging small businessmen.

And a Tobin tax? How can we be expected to decimate the currencies of smaller nations if it's not profitable?

banger j 10/07/11 09:27 PM Report Abuse

the lunatics are in charge of the asylem

Pam 10/07/11 11:57 PM Report Abuse

I was interested in what Thomas Mitchell had to say, but because of all the spelling mistakes, I wonder where he was educated. Please check your spelling before submitting comments. Also I am sorry to say this, but Tony would fare even worse if he were in power.

nic 11/07/11 07:18 AM Report Abuse

Here are the early election results:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/cast-your-vote-in-national-plebiscite-on-carbon-tax-hosted-by-news-ltd-websites/story-e6freooo-1226091387866

Please vote.

James 11/07/11 07:29 AM Report Abuse

Get that Red Headed socialist out Canberra NOW, THIS INSTANT ! I have had enough. Grrrrr

Patricia Thomas 12/07/11 03:36 PM Report Abuse

it is scary stuff all the good stuff that has been done by past Governments over the years is goiung to be undone especially the good work the Howard years did. They are red through and through and so is Labor they are going to bring this Country down and we will end up a third world country. Pricing Carbon is todays 21st Century Furby as Evolution was to the 20th Century. Thats why they may think like they do." Monkey see Momkey Do"

All for themselves 12/07/11 05:24 PM Report Abuse

I'd love it if those of you that do - could stop knocking Tasmania. We aren't backward and we're NOT Supporters of Bob Brown either. We are standing up with you and to fight against the Gillard/Brown government global warming scam. You'll actually find that the majority of Tasmanians hate the Greens more than any other state does. He practised on screwing our state up before he set his ambitions to federal parliament!

Today I became a Liberal supporter - I'm sorry it took me so long.

David Lawrence 12/07/11 05:43 PM Report Abuse

As a long time Liberal voter, it saddens me to see the ignorance displayed in these comments.

You all need to go back to school and take not only a civics class, but a basic political science one too. All the cries of "Socialism!" and "Communism!" make a mockery not only of yourselves, but of the party in general.

It makes Liberal voters look like scared old fools when we are supposed to be a measured, educated, and conservative party.

You do realise that some of those policies aren't actually that terrible, and *gasp* some of them used to be policy positions held by the Liberal Party, don't you?

Get a grip on yourselves, evaluate the opposing parties' policies carefully, absorb the ones that make sense, and destroy politically the ones that you vehemently disagree with.

Crying about a minority government helps no-one, and mindlessly obstructing everything because "the other guy likes it" is not politically savvy in the long-term.

Wake up and stop being afraid, and maybe, just maybe, you'll stop being the embodiment of Poe's Law.

Jason 15/07/11 07:19 AM Report Abuse

The biggest environmental policy inititaive that we could take is to lower population growth.

The policy is this:

"Establish ‘Guard Rails’ for Population Growth
The Coalition will set clear parameters for population growth by tasking a renamed Productivity and Sustainability Commission to advise on population growth bands considered sustainable. This advice will provide the framework for setting migration programmes."

The younger amongst you may not have had any experience of what Australia was like. But us older folks can tell you compared to what it is now we lived in a paradise.

Australians were laid back for good reason. We were crusin'!!!

What are your ideas on population growth?

Jason 15/07/11 07:22 AM Report Abuse

For example, we need to get a handle on New Zealand as a back door to Australia. New Zealand has to have the same policies as us, or we need to junket the immigration regulation freedoms.

James 15/07/11 08:35 AM Report Abuse

That's a very true and profound statement Jason, the the freedom without sign posts everywhere & low pollution we had in the 50's & 60's is long gone so the "lucky country" is not as "lucky" as it was. You have to admire the US how they fight and demand freedoms despite their known faults.

You do look at young people and realize that "they just don't know" as they simply were not here. Many I know cannot even remember the Whitlam fiasco. In another 15 I won't be here so what's it all matter. All you can do is try to educate the young.

Sam 28/07/11 09:31 AM Report Abuse

"New buildings and retrofitted old buildings to meet high minimum standards of energy efficiency, noise insulation and water conservation." - Sounds more like common sense than a radical agenda

Patricia Thomas 28/07/11 02:57 PM Report Abuse

Dear David please look up the words Communism and Socialism and in a Dictionary and see what they say. Their is not much difference in their views. Communism is
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

2.
( often initial capital letter ) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. .a political party advocating the principles of communism, especially as developed by Marx and Lenin.
so·cial·ism
   [soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA

noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist

Patricia Thomas 28/07/11 03:35 PM Report Abuse

Thank God Sam we have feedom of Democracy to be able to discuss and debate our views and share them peacefully. Kind Regards Sam.

James 28/07/11 03:36 PM Report Abuse

Scary, that's where everyone is paid the standard wage and the government rules by stealth so if you don't like if that's tough. That's the new Australia I guess. Not since the Whitlam era have I seen such madness. I guess these guys are behind it all, the group that want what the wealthy have without having to pay for it.
http://www.socialistpartyaustralia.org/

Patricia Thomas 28/07/11 03:41 PM Report Abuse

It doesn't hurt for us to be watchful and aware. We can't going around with our heads in the sand.

Maggi 01/08/11 08:39 AM Report Abuse

Thanks for adding exposure of The Greens policies.

There should be more exposure, where can I find out about Liberal policies?

I'll definatly be voting for the Green.

Outsourcing my business overseas 01/08/11 08:59 AM Report Abuse

They say that we must be in line to the other countries, however how come our minimum wage is so high compared to these other countries? Is it because we need to pay for the higher electricity bills and water bills from an inefficient Labor government? Is it because labor want to get their hand on more tax money..of course it is!
How anyone can vote for these idiots has got me perplexed!

john d 01/08/11 09:14 AM Report Abuse

Barry's comment ( 01/07/11 09:48 am) is an incitement to violence and should have been moderated. His email address should be forwarded to the federal police for investigation as this kind of talk is dangerous for our citizenry, democracy and degrades the Liberal Party by implication.

PB 01/08/11 09:59 AM Report Abuse

John I 01/07/11 wrote "The Green's agenda reflects Communist Dictatorship. "

Really John? How on Earth do you get that? I think you are getting a bit excited over not very much at all. I read those policies and I can't see a fascist/communist/socialist dictatorship.

What's wrong with asking private schools to tell us how they spent our tax money? Tony seems to think a company tax rate of 33% is fine - that's what his parental leave scheme will do. Why shouldn't family trusts be taxed as companies? Joe Hockey wanted this policy but the National Party started screaming about it.

I go through each of these policies and there's nothing there that a moderate Liberal would object to. Maybe the modern Liberal Party has no place for moderates like me - people who used to vote Liberal but look jaw agape at what the party has become - well that's fair enough. But pretending that (for example) "Means test First Homeowners Grants. " is the harbinger of a communist dictatorship is just hysterical - hysterically over the top and hysterically funny.

Steven M 01/08/11 10:01 AM Report Abuse

The incitements to violence / assassinations demanded by several posters here are in the process of being reported to the Federal Police. I am by no means a Greens supporter, but I am a believer in fair and equitable arguments. This page crosses the line into rampant lunacy.

Prepare for a 'please explain', moderators.

Lloyd McDonald 01/08/11 10:16 AM Report Abuse

You people are barking mad.

Can I suggest you leave the country immediately, Australia will be a far better place without the whingeing pathetic sods infesting this comments section.

Phil Ken Sebben 01/08/11 10:20 AM Report Abuse

I have also taken the trouble to report some of these comments to the AFP. I am deeply trouble by what has been said here. You people are a disgrace to the word Liberal. Who moderates this site?

PB 01/08/11 10:44 AM Report Abuse

It's good to see you've decided to take the offensive comments down, but really they should never have been permitted in the first place. Let's hope you haven't left it too late and that we don't see some "nutter" doing as urged.

PB 01/08/11 10:57 AM Report Abuse

I came here because of the remarkable urging on the Liberal Party's website to murder politicians (Let's see if The Australian reports that!) but have stayed for the stupidity. For example, "... how come our minimum wage is so high compared to these other countries? Is it because we need to pay for the higher electricity bills and water bills from an inefficient Labor government?"

You know, people get paid to write satire that's not as good as that. I suppose someone should point out that electricity bills are going up because coal is so expensive, that water is going up because of the cost of new infra-structure (desalination plants) and that the minimum wage in Australia really has nothing to do with it. One could also point out that some states have privatised their utilities so that alleged Labor inefficiencies are irrelevant.

One could. But I prefer to just have my prejudices about the modern Liberal party confirmed. I wonder how Sir Robert would react to this kind of stuff. Probably by voting Green.

Phil Ken Sebben 01/08/11 11:00 AM Report Abuse

Does not matter mods , damage done.

Steve Haines 01/08/11 11:00 AM Report Abuse

Looks pretty good to me! The policies above seem progressive and will make this country a far better place to live for all Australians - not just coal barons, polluters, pro-monarchists, anti women's rights, hate mongers and fascists and other right wing extremists who now constitute the mainstream opinion of the so called 'liberal' party.

Matt Holden 01/08/11 11:16 AM Report Abuse

I’ve never seen so much hysterical nonsense on a single web page. Does this really reflect the thinking of Liberal Party members? Surely not. To quote Steve Haines (above):

“Looks pretty good to me! The policies above seem progressive and will make this country a far better place to live for all Australians - not just coal barons, polluters, pro-monarchists, anti women's rights, hate mongers and fascists and other right wing extremists who now constitute the mainstream opinion of the so called 'liberal' party. ’

RobJ 01/08/11 11:38 AM Report Abuse

Australia has it's own tea party, they post here and at Andrew Bolt's blog, they listen to Alan Jones, they probably think that the clever country is an apt description for Australia.

Murph 01/08/11 11:52 AM Report Abuse

Matt...Most likely not. The average Australian voter would not be that hysterical.

Murph 01/08/11 11:53 AM Report Abuse

The blogs need moderators!

Kevin McLeary 01/08/11 11:58 AM Report Abuse

Thak you for abridging the Greens policy here as I would not have bothered to visit their website myself and read it there. Thanks to your efforts Tony I have discovered that I am a Socialist!

Spartacus 01/08/11 12:57 PM Report Abuse

The policies all sound great to me. It's the Liberals who are the real crazies. Especially the rabid ranters on talkback calling for assassinations, bribery, and civil war.

VinceOZ 01/08/11 01:05 PM Report Abuse

Moderators are really needed here.. Trolls have arrived

Malcolm Turnbull 01/08/11 01:37 PM Report Abuse

oh - so you classify anyone who doesn't kiss Tony's backside as a troll? What about the ferals above advocating anarchy and sedition?

maggi 01/08/11 01:50 PM Report Abuse

The Liberals are a rabble and their cowboy leader has run off with the "Magic Pudding"

Lord Barry Boncton 01/08/11 02:15 PM Report Abuse

Wow , these are great ideas from the Greens Party. Will have to go and read their Policies. At least they have some , other than Dr. NO 's Stop the boats and bring back No work choices . the LNP have turned into Gina's puppets going in her private jet to a Indian's Billionaires wedding and helping her sell qld assets , thanks barnaby and Bishop.

Malcolm 01/08/11 02:19 PM Report Abuse

People @ Crikey. ....(+)....

You know what that means?

lulz 01/08/11 02:21 PM Report Abuse

What the hell since it's unmoderated

Arise ye workers from your slumbers
Arise ye prisoners of want
For reason in revolt now thunders
And at last ends the age of cant.
Away with all your superstitions
Servile masses arise, arise
We'll change henceforth the old tradition
And spurn the dust to win the prize.

Refrain:
So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.

No more deluded by reaction
On tyrants only we'll make war
The soldiers too will take strike action
They'll break ranks and fight no more
And if those cannibals keep trying
To sacrifice us to their pride
They soon shall hear the bullets flying
We'll shoot the generals on our own side.

No saviour from on high delivers
No faith have we in prince or peer
Our own right hand the chains must shiver
Chains of hatred, greed and fear
E'er the thieves will out with their booty
And give to all a happier lot.
Each at the forge must do their duty
And we'll strike while the iron is hot.

Lord Barry Boncton 01/08/11 02:25 PM Report Abuse

Can still see them (comments about murdering politicians ) at Crikey.com . What is it with Right-wing Conservatives and violence ?

watty 01/08/11 05:31 PM Report Abuse

Lord Boncton...obviously a graduate of the "Gillard Hyperbowl Academy" Writes a lot yet says nothing.

dendy 01/08/11 05:46 PM Report Abuse

The Internationale above reminded me of the quote from the Communist Manifesto. Since you lot have no idea about communism here is a quote:

"The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The workers have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
Workers of the world, unite! "

Now, personally I think that "means testing first home owner's allowance" isn't really what Marx had in mind when he wrote about " the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions".

You guys really have made yourself look appalling, ridiculous and worst of all, stupid. I'm not in the business of advising The Liberal Party, but if I were, I'd get rid of this page, pretty quick.

dendy 01/08/11 05:51 PM Report Abuse

Incidentally, when I tried using the word d**mn in my previous comment your site complained about me using obscenities. That's hilarious. You have a site where commenters advocate the murder of politicians and yet your moderation rules prohibit the use of a very old fashioned, very mild oath. Sort of the Liberal Party all over.

watty 01/08/11 06:30 PM Report Abuse

Just a bit of editing Dendy and you've got me

The Greens disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Green revolution.

The workers have nothing to lose but their jobs. They have a world to win. Workers of the world, unite and rid us of Milne's Militants.

Fixed!

shaun 01/08/11 10:14 PM Report Abuse

life as we know will end, it's all gloom and doom. eh how about telling the miners that. jeez you lot are a mob of tossers

steve 01/08/11 10:18 PM Report Abuse

Noticed you have taken the posts off line from Barry promoting calls for violence, yep you lot are a mob of tossers

Tim 02/08/11 11:20 AM Report Abuse

I was starting to get depressed reading all of the lunatic ranting here, carrying on about socialism and so forth. Then suddenly some people popped up being entirely reasonable, suggesting that murder wasn't really ok, and pointing out that most of the Greens' policies would have been perfectly acceptable to the Liberal party 30 years ago. Suddenly I felt much more cheerful.

If you don't agree with the carbon tax, fine. If you would prefer Tony Abott as PM, fine. Most of us aren't too fond of Julia Gillard. But that doesn't mean you have to rant and rave and foam at the mouth. It doesn't mean you have to advocate violence and accuse anybody who disagrees with you of being a communist. It doesn't mean that you have to spew hatred and bile.

Cos let's face it, by accusing me - who wants us to be a prosperous country who looks after people who are less well-off - of being a socialist/fascist/idiot/etc, you make me defensive. You make me *less* likely to vote for the Liberal party. And you make me question the good-will and intelligence of people who do.

So thanks to all the non-crazy commenters. And those of you who oppose the Greens - consider toning it down.

Gordon Melville 02/08/11 01:14 PM Report Abuse

I love The Greens and fully support them, but the hatred I hold for Liberals is so great I can't describe it.

Nick 03/08/11 12:22 AM Report Abuse

This is a joke, the policies have been misconstrued to appear radical with bare-minimal evidence to support the arguments. There's nothing radical about the Greens, that's why so many people voted for them in the recent election.

Jim 03/08/11 02:14 PM Report Abuse

Some of the words being bandied about here are just ridiculous.

'Extreme', 'communist', 'traitor' etc. all smack of baying for blood.

Has anything this bad really come to pass in Australia? We don't have it that bad, nowhere near that bad.

Look at other countries OS, some are basket cases where citizens face real threats from their governments for speaking their minds.

Every day people live in real fear under real authoritarian governments somewhere in the world, which is a great tragedy of human suffering we should all be in opposition to.

To say that we have the same kind of government here is insulting to those who suffer pain and penury under real tyrannical regimes every day of their lives, as well as making you look like a maniacal goose.

I'm no supporter of Gillard or the Greens, but I'm not about to call them labels that they, in reality, don't truly deserve.

Jimmy Blurb 05/08/11 02:23 PM Report Abuse

Very few of the policies you've outlined in this blog are radical... some of their economic policies are a bit misguided but, for instance "Sustainable, renewable energy sources to meet future energy needs", isn't that the policy of both major parties too? What else is 'direct action' about?

dendy 07/08/11 02:32 PM Report Abuse

Ah. Watty made a comment on my comment. He (very wittily) changed "communist" to "Green".

The thing is Watty, where is the evidence that the Greens want to "the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions". I mean, if all you can slime them with is "Means test first home buyer's grant" then you really haven't got a lot of evidence. That was the whole point of my comment.

But what's the point. Reason and the Right parted company long ago.

God, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the stupidity of the Right, their retreat from reason, their irrationality, their ignorance, and more than anything else, their dishonesty.

watty 07/08/11 04:54 PM Report Abuse

Dendy.

Be sick my friend

.I am tired of Brown suggesting, even demanding, a "World Government" (with perhaps its centre in Canberra.) behind the pretext of "caring for the Planet.

I am tired of people like Milne making pronouncements on behalf of the Australian Government as if she had been elected to govern.

I am weary of the claims that wind and solar power can replace coal fired and nuclear powered energy sources at reasonable cost.

I am continuously disgusted with Brown and Co giving token support to Australian Aborigines but when the idea of development on their land is even mentioned the Greens round on them.

Finally I am tired of people like you trying to defend your fellow onanists by suggesting they have nowt but good intent in their hearts. I would suggest the Greens are not only of s Socialist bent but blend that with a touch of Latter Day Neo- Luddism.

Mary 09/08/11 11:07 AM Report Abuse

And I am sick and tired of the negativity of Tony Abbot, and the complete absence of any creative thinking let alone policies that could bring Australia, kicking and screaming as all his supporters will, into the late 20th century let alone the 21st century which is full of enormous challenges that the Greens are trying to confront.
Most climate change denial is born of a fearful head-in-sand refusal to confront the fact that humanity's economic activity has outrun the capacity of the finite planet on which we live and we are going to have to change our assumptions and behaviour if we wish to ensure our children and grandchildren of a liveable environment. It is a simple fact that even Tony Abbott, a Rhodes scholar no less, should be able to grasp, that endless exponential growth of any activity in a finite context is impossible. Remember the one about a lily pad in a pond that doubles in size every day? On the day after it fills half the pond, what happens? That is what is happening to the planet - it is FULL folks, and if we keep on going the way we are, its life support systems will collapse. The GFC should have been a wake up call to this process of overshoot and collapse. But no, we all struggle to get back to business as usual, and shut our eyes to the inevitable. On this basis the Greens policies are the only sane ones; and probably do not go far enough to pull us back from the brink.

Fabian0011 17/08/11 10:01 PM Report Abuse

I think when the ALP heard one world govt. They should have run to the hills. Cos that policy is plain old dumb. Who would in their right mind even put it on the table.

Don't get me started on their economic policies. I'll be here forever. I hope the great green govt interventionists and KRudd understand that govt caused the subprime mortgage crisis that lead to the GFC, not capitalism. The businesses had govt paying for the deposits that the customers couldn't pay for and believed (correctly) that govt would bail them out. No risk. No fear.

Capitalism has lead to the great growth of Hong Kong. GDP per capita was approx. 15K in 80s and approx. 35K in mid 2000s.
Great doco coming out in the US, 'Free or Equal', about Milton Friedman's ideas and a revisit of Friedman's doco, Free to Choose' from 30 years ago. Do yourself a favour and watch both.

http://www.freetochoosemedia.org/production/free_or_equal/press.php

Another thing, More Hayek and Friedman and less Keynes and Krugman.

watty 17/08/11 11:22 PM Report Abuse

Got you Mary.Global Warming caused the GFC, made Gillard and Swan lie through teir teeth about a carbon tax and maybe even made Craig authorise the credit card.

Global Warming ,like Rudd, died in Copenhagen but the "true believers (Sachs,GE.csrbon traders) are still flogging the dead horse,

The Planet is "full"???? Just how many have you had?

gary 19/09/11 12:30 PM Report Abuse

im sick of a few dictating to the majority and with leaders ie brown ,and gillard we will watch the moral compass of this once great country go into a spin it never recovers from it we allow these ---------- to carry on the carnage of their agendas nobody has had a vote on the only thing we will need to build in australia is more prisons get rid of them now

tony 21/09/11 01:07 PM Report Abuse

wow..i dont have any problems with their policies...seems like common sense...but then again i am from a time where society had a vested intrest in all the members of it surviving rather than the current vested interest of keeping an underclass struggling..

Frank, 04/10/11 07:51 AM Report Abuse

The Greens philosophy is to make every one poor and we know a poor man can never employed anyone so we are back in the dark ages and i would presume Bob Brown and his like would want to keep their over inflated salaries and perks and be the capitalists of our new down driven society the Greens so not care about the people their only consideration is to their misguided attitude to human decency and normal care and consideration for the community at large.

tombrown 05/10/11 09:10 PM Report Abuse

The greens are just vicious angry children,juvenile in thought,inexpierienced in life,igorant of others,selfish in the extreme,dishonest bullshitters,the biggest racists of all with thier hatred of "white Australia"these people tick every box and then some in the psychopaths handbook.and they are governing our home because gutless liebore wont stand up to them.labor is finished as a political party in Australia,the mood of the people has gone well beyond resentment,it is now pure hatred.

David 10/11/11 06:26 PM Report Abuse

I have followed the federal political scene for nearly 4 decades now and thanks for the publishing of the above material.
Australia remains in deep trouble and when considering that this country's National Interests are being completely ignored by the ALP/Greens; how much longer can we sit back and watch our way-of-life being eroded further resulting from minority groups/supporters of those mentioned parties and very questionable policies/platform?

The Greens must be targeted and although the ALP's support base continues to decline, there would be a majority of Australians that would love to go to a early election. This current Federal Government is 100 times worse than what I experienced when Mr Whitlam was in office.

tombrown 11/11/11 09:20 PM Report Abuse

I am going to Canberra on Sat 12/11/11 I am going to sit on the lawn at parliment house with some kind of placard,I fully expect some union thug type hasslement,but on a day when people remember those who had a much harder fight on their hands,such thuggery is a small thing.Grandads picture is on the mantlepiece I want to look at it without a sense of shame,I want him to know that I did something,however small to defend that wich he and his mates gave thier lives for.I cant stand by and watch gillard and the greens destroy our home.a tad melodramatic I know,but this is the reality of our situation,Evil prevails when good people do nothing.

Michelle, Hillwood TAS 11/11/11 10:38 PM Report Abuse

The Greens 'Bob Brown Narcissist Party' is the new Labor Far Left, and the Labour 'Gillard Go for International Accolade Party' is the new Labor Centre.
And between the two - Australia looses - everything we were, everything we are and everything we could have been - is being Senated away.
This alliance is THE worst Government we have ever had!!!

Grenville 02/01/12 11:44 AM Report Abuse

ONSHORE PROCESSING:
The Greens want onshore processing of the illegal arrivals of "boat people". Okay, so how about the idea of publicly espousing that a processing centre in Tasmania might be the ideal solution. This I'm sure would more than rattle the Tasmanian electorate and create both embarrasment and division. One can almost hear Tasmanian Greens saying "not in my back yard". Why not try it out in the first 2012 parliament. I'd love then to hear the screaming rebukes.
2012 is the last opportunity to splinter the Independent and Green voters, so go for it Tony..!

Lesta 14/01/12 11:00 AM Report Abuse

Enjoy the lies and deceit while you can Bob brown, people are sick and tired of your crap. It won't be long and we will be well rid of you, just like the communist labor party.

rick 16/01/12 09:10 PM Report Abuse

Life and survival is all about common sense and how to implement it as the situation dictates. The "Greens" live in a world totally devoid of any logic. Those idiots in parliament are being paid by my hard earned money to try their utmost to ruin this great land. Cannot wait to the next election!