Jeremy4224 09/07/10 08:22 PM Report Abuse

NOW IS THE TIME TO FOCUS ON THE ISSUES THAT MATTER TO AUSTRALIA
Speak up and let us know what you think

10 ways to get involved with the Liberals
http://www.liberal.org.au/Get-Involved.aspx

1. SPEAK UP - Whether its the federal budget or concern for local water supplies, here is the chance to speak up on the issues that matter most to you. Let us know what you think.

4. SUPPORT GREAT IDEAS - Ideas with lots of supporters lets us know what is important to you.

Seems there were plenty of good ideas on here that are important to Australia, but were taken down because they didn't matter to the Liberal Party. Now you're asking for support of your ideas when you don't care about what matters to the rest of us?

Lost any chance of getting my vote.

JPH 09/07/10 09:02 PM Report Abuse

Though I will still be voting for the Liberal Party, I agree with Jeremy4224 to some extent. The major issue being not only can't we put and vote on our own ideas but we can't even vote against the coalition policies being put up- we can only vote for and then support them. How is that democratic, fair, just??? Seems ridiculous! Why can't we vote against ideas???

BBloke 09/07/10 09:31 PM Report Abuse

Where did all the voter driven ideas and comments go? Clearly a party who cannot deal with democracy!

JPH 09/07/10 10:50 PM Report Abuse

Totally agree with BBloke! Also, again I am so annoyed at the fact that we are not given the right to vote against any of the Coalition policies that we are now forced to vote for and support!
BRING BACK OUR IDEAS!!!

cdeverist 09/07/10 11:12 PM Report Abuse

the Liberal Parliamentary Party are trying to win votes amongst its own supporters. Why don't they go out and engender some support from all Australians and actually try to win this election!! Bring back our ideas! Will it take 100 supporters for you guys to put your plans into action as well?

Jeremy4224 09/07/10 11:18 PM Report Abuse

Spot on Cdeverist.

On another point, some of the 'our ideas' have no supporters yet, if the presenter of the idea doesn't support their own idea, how can they expect others to follow their idea in support?

BBloke 09/07/10 11:41 PM Report Abuse

I smell a Little Johnny like "my way or the highway" situation coming on!

BBloke 09/07/10 11:44 PM Report Abuse

Funny:- J0hn H0ward is considered by the liberal party to be a Profanity!! Well I can only agree!

Nate 10/07/10 01:18 PM Report Abuse

Lol, just pathetic. The evidence based gun law and concealed carry ideas linked to multiple reports, statistics, research and evidence supporting each idea and the promised informed comments from the party never arrived. Now we have the same tired old rhetoric-laden policies appealing to an audience that is already won-over. No innovation, no forward-thinking. Very dissapointing.

Nate 10/07/10 01:25 PM Report Abuse

Hey guys. For those that are keen you can google the name of your preferred idea (that you can no longer access) and then look at the cached link. You can then press "print screen" to take a screen shot and dump it into a word document or similar program if you are keen a record of the number of "likes" etc. Will be interesting to see how they compare to the mandated ideas list now.

Ashley 11/07/10 12:34 PM Report Abuse

"Ideas with lots of supporters lets us know what is important to you."

Wouldn't you know, actually looking at the ideas people put forward themselves let you know what's important to us? It's pathetic. You've taken down ideas that are clearly issues with the Australian people (judging by the multitude of comments they have had) such as gay marriage and internet censorship so you can find out what's "important" to us? Really convincing there.

You've lost my vote.

Jeremy4224 12/07/10 11:24 AM Report Abuse

Here's the top 5 ideas presented. These ideas generated the greatest response from over 500 ideas. These ideas were awaiting response from their relevant ministers. People have taken the time to show their support and present their views, I think they deserve a considered response to their ideas.

Jeremy4224 12/07/10 11:25 AM Report Abuse

1. Abolish the New Labor Government's Tax Rule with regard to Foreign Exempt Income as of July '09
Likes: 2019
Dislikes: 68
Supporters: 1182
Comments: 428

Jeremy4224 12/07/10 11:25 AM Report Abuse

2. Increase Autism Funding to $50,000pa per child for 2 years
Likes: 2629
Dislikes: 23
Supporters: 607
Comments: 254

Jeremy4224 12/07/10 11:26 AM Report Abuse

3. Carry Concealed Weapon Permits
Likes: 2908
Dislikes: 237
Supporters: 507
Comments: 463

Jeremy4224 12/07/10 11:26 AM Report Abuse

4. Allow gay marriage
Likes: 1632
Dislikes: 524
Supporters: 281
Comments: 441

Jeremy4224 12/07/10 11:26 AM Report Abuse

5. It is time for evidence-based gun controls.
Likes: 951
Dislikes: 67
Supporters: 255
Comments: 171

Stunned and Amazed 12/07/10 11:58 AM Report Abuse

Relevant Liberal shadow ministers;

I think you owe it to the:-

10,139 people in the top 5 who voted for an idea

919 people in the top 5 who voted against an idea

2,832 People in the top 5 who supported an idea

1757 people who took the time to comment on an idea

... a considered and decisive statement as to the Ideas that clearly mattered to many. It is the least you can do after having so little regard for these matters that you just deleted them.

Tess 14/07/10 11:00 PM Report Abuse

How do I get an answer from the Liberal party about clearly stating that they are not going to support the internet filter.

Darren Starr 15/07/10 12:48 AM Report Abuse

For Greenaway area, Rouse Hill , Windsor Road and Rail promises. I propose a simple idea to create awareness that we are sick of being taken for granted . I call for all frustrated drivers to blow their horns each day like the sounds of the world cup.
I can't believe we have had to put up with this issue for so long that all drivers and passengers are just accepting it.
Whats more shutting up and willing to take another 7 to 10 years of this absolute rubbish.
Local libs need to get and roll up their sleeves and fight for what is right for all of their community not just selfish issues.
Fighting ETS, school building, border security is all old news, we are getting sucked into the ALP game. Find 5 good points for change in your own backyard and let success of implementation build upon itself.

Dave 15/07/10 06:16 PM Report Abuse

The answer to all those who are complianing that our policies have been removed from this site can be found here:

http://senatoronline.org.au/

I call that democracy! -- Direct participation in all Senate votes via an internet poll!

Jason 16/07/10 07:51 AM Report Abuse

Dave, that looks a very interesting situation over there at senatoronline. However I tbink the point being made here by participants is that the site functionality that was here previously [a place for people to present an idea and have people comment, and vote] was very desirable.

Does it fit with a policitcal party site? An interesting question.

It certainly hit a note though.

A brief proposition. The ability for brief comment. The ability to vote.

And the ability to have a response from some stars if numbers are met.

Jason 16/07/10 07:55 AM Report Abuse

Not just stars but to the main stream political machine.

David 17/07/10 02:46 PM Report Abuse

One keep issue is work choices. Tony needs to say work choices are dead, and keep it simple. He tends to not handle questions on that subject well. He should remeber the kiss rule. keep it simple stupid. Good idea to plant on early in this election he will not go down that path. Make it very clear and not beat around the bush. A simple *work choices are dead* end of story. Do not go into detail over what ifs. Politicans needs to remember to keep their speeches less spin and easier to be directa dn clear.

David 17/07/10 02:52 PM Report Abuse

Last thing would be to look at how Julia handles the press. Before closing questions. Simple key point would be to say "will take 3 more questions etc". Todays speech was good@the start. Tony's answers were not clear and direct. Work choices should of been spelt out DEAD. Let the press know only x amount of questions are left to answer. Then call it a day. Should not just walk off and say thats all and leave the press hanging. Not a good move!

Squigs 18/07/10 04:40 AM Report Abuse

Why do my comments go missing???
Must be what they dont want to hear??

CC 18/07/10 12:01 PM Report Abuse

I agree with comments written by David.

Very disappointed with Mr Abbotts response to JGillard yesterday.

Here was a golden opportunity to come out strong, decisive and confident and he blew it!

Mr Abbott needs to think carefully, use the KISS rule. Work choices are dead, end of story. Also, Mr Abbott needs to be in sinc with his shadow ministers, need for all to have the same story - Sen. Abetz has been reported to say that "work choices" will be tweeked, or words to that effect. Not being in sinc will surely be Libs downfall.

Time for egos to be put on the back burner and come out fighting for the people you represent (all Australians)

David's comments and suggestion on handling the press is SPOT ON!

There is a need to address the "cost of living" as well.

David Knox 18/07/10 03:12 PM Report Abuse

I have this fear that Tony does not know much about our economy and COULD LOSE THE ELECTION. How could he possibly say that he was planning to SEND AUSTRALIA BACK TO DEFICIT!!!!! Extremely worrisome. I am happy that it has not been picked up by the MEDIA yet. What a disaster!!

Squigs 19/07/10 01:49 PM Report Abuse

Labor has a IDEAS blog now.
We cant get any Joy from the LIBS regarding 23AG so lets see if Labour wants the extra -+ 900,000 VOTES !!!!!!

Jimmy R 19/07/10 06:05 PM Report Abuse

Jeremy4224, NO we DON'T want gay marriage, and leave the gun laws alone , i'm a proud gun ower and any government that tries to take away our guns will loose a LOT of votes....

Jeremy4224 19/07/10 06:41 PM Report Abuse

The comment above illustrates why the 'your ideas' shouldn't have been taken down before a considered response was made for each of them.

Brian Falk 20/07/10 10:01 AM Report Abuse

I'm sitting in Brisbane and an awful feeling is starting to overcome me. It feels like the last Queensland election when I waited vainly in hope for the LNP to engage in a campaign that took the state Labor government to task for it past stuff ups. Now I'm feeling uneasy again as the Coalition fails to do the same to the Rudd/Gillard government. Labor's use of media to promote its message seems to be far more effective than the Coalitions.
If Gillard, who gave birth to the so called Fair Work Act, makes accommodations and revisions to the act it was clearly flawed when implemented and there are issues that need to be fixed. Why is the Coalition scared to run the line that they won't change the intent of the Act but will make amendments, as Labor has done, to address issues. Surely there's enough brain power in the party to craft consistent media themes, key statements and slick ads that show the Coalition will do no more than what Labor has done, rather than go on with this nonsense that never, ever will the Fair Work Act be changed.

Beat Labor 20/07/10 03:47 PM Report Abuse

Can I just make a comment re: ALP-Greens deal? Has anyone focused on the Greens immigration refugee policy? ie All asylum applicants would be processed onshore, there would be no detention and they would have access to the full benefits of the nation including income support, education, healthcare and the legal system....

Richard Brew 20/07/10 09:12 PM Report Abuse

LETS TALK HOUSING
We need more accessible housing in places that people want to live:- close to infrastructure and employment.

At the last election Labour said they were going to make housing more affordable, they had a housing conference, they spent a lot of money on housing for fringe groups, they said we were entering into a new era of state federal co-operation that would overcome many of the infrastructure and housing issues.

Today first home buyers are worse off in their search for a family home than they were 3 years ago.
• Interest rates are up, new home approvals down, housing starts down, Rents/ rates and electricity up,Development approval times the same or worse,State development levies and taxes on new houses up, Developer contributions up.

First home buyers of today would remember the promises of three years ago because it takes longer than 3 years to save a deposit, their the same people

Why can’t the Liberals score on Housing?

David 20/07/10 09:52 PM Report Abuse

The average person/ voter do not care in politics. Why hasn't the Libs worked this out. Labor has. The Libs can't even give a proper answer about work choices. You hear dead, buried, cremated. Then you hear we might tweak this or that. Then don't explain/ explain well enough what tweaks you are referring to. *slaps head* someone needs to sit Tony and the Libs aside and say. Work choices are dead. Nothing will be altered in the agreement. Labor will continue with the AWU to run scare campaigns. Go on facebook and go on Gillard’s site. Last I checked 35,000 people. So many voting because she is a woman, or because of fear of work choices. This campaign will be a filthy campaign aimed not at Labors stuff ups, but of Libs work choices, Abbots Speedos and his blunders. Good to see policy matters so much. Shakes head

RRichardd 20/07/10 10:15 PM Report Abuse

Given the divergence between the headline of this 'idea' and the comments. I'm wondering if anyone in the Liberal camp is paying any attention at all?

RRichardd 20/07/10 10:33 PM Report Abuse

@Richard Brew

Interest rates are up because of the cost of the funds that the big four borrow is up and there's too much money chasing too few houses. There's not much any government can do about that whilst the banks are in the position of getting most of their funding from overseas sources and there's a persistent use of money to try to fix housing affordability instead of housing supply. Government lost much of its influence over banking when the CBA was sold and the Reserve was cut free from direct political control.

Rob Khouri 21/07/10 09:38 AM Report Abuse

Taxation Reform - An idea that should be considered!
With population of urban areas a critical concern, what about different taxation rates for different regions of Australia for residents of those regions? This differs from the zone rebate that is pre-historic and would be simple to implement. If you are a resident of a region such as Bourke, Broken Hill etc then your tax rate is less than city areas.
Simplicity is the key and as we are endeavouring to find a solution to the cost of housing people in cities why not give incentives to locate your business and employment in a regional area.

Anne 21/07/10 01:47 PM Report Abuse

The Liberal campaign should focus on competence and the total imcompetence of the Rudd/Gillard government. Insulation - 4 dead, an industry ruined, numerous contractors bankrupt and the government still incurring retification costs. 2020 summit - all cost, no result. ETS and Copenhagen - enormous costs spent without any recognition that Australia cannot inlfuence the climate of the planet. BER - billions wasted through incompetent management, imagine what could have been delivered if properly run! National Braodband - a commitment to $43 BILLION expenditure with no business case (wouldnt be acceptable for the evil business sector to do that). Etc etc etc. Let's not forget the track record of Gillard and Swan as No 2 and No 3 in the Rudd Government

Jock 21/07/10 03:44 PM Report Abuse

Currently if a family assists parents who are on a pension by allowing them to stay with the family, the parents lose the pension and the family then has to try to support the parents as well as there own family.

Maz 23/07/10 07:28 PM Report Abuse

Here is an idea to deter the boat people, what about giving refugees what our Age pensioners receive, they are expected to live on it after paying taxes all their life, so it can't be unfair to the refugees. Come on Liberals get back to grass roots, or you will lose.

Richard M 24/07/10 03:52 PM Report Abuse

Try this on for size, Lower the income tax to 20% flat rate no matter how many hr's we work or how many jobs we work to make a living. This way we get the benefits from our long hrs it will encourage us to work over time and boost productivity.

NameBette Keith 24/07/10 08:22 PM Report Abuse

The utilities allowance for Single Aged Pensioners needs to be much increased as it is impossible to pay the increases, especially electricity.

Bette Keith 24/07/10 08:27 PM Report Abuse

$2000 for an old car. How does one replace a car with only $2000? Where will the extra money come from for an Aged Pensioner to replace their valued vehicle?

Bette Keith 24/07/10 08:32 PM Report Abuse

I was looking back to see if you were looking back to see if I was looking back to see if you were looking back at me. Why is the Government looking back all the time at the Libs when they say they are going forward? You can't go forward if you are in reverse gear!

Yuyutsu 27/07/10 12:41 AM Report Abuse

Bette Keith,

1. Old cars are better, in many ways. I just wish we could replace our worn-out old cars with new cars of the older models.

2. Why rush forward? we all know where we ultimately end!

Those who ideologically always look forward, cannot by definition, and never will be, happy with what they already have.

Yuyutsu 27/07/10 03:13 PM Report Abuse

A step in the right direction, but why actually, should anyone be forced to be called an "employee" against their will in the first place, along with the draconic IR laws that come with that title? I don't mean using contracting as a tax-avoidance, but surely an informed and consenting individual has the natural right to engage in whatever agreements they like with other individuals. Just as we are free to do this in intimate relationships, then why not in work-relationships?

Sadly, Tony Abbot was forced to postpone the return of WorkChoices by another 3 years, but this could still be an opening for people who define themselves as "contractor" or operate through a company, to be able to freely decide on their own terms of engagements.

Bruce Farley 29/07/10 01:21 AM Report Abuse

I would like to see the PSI means tested to include reference to PI,PL and Workers Comp Insurance criteria-if you have this then you shouldnt fall into the category irregardless of the other requirments.

I also want to see major shake on small business insurance requirments especially on premiums based on turnover. Its killing the contractor/consulting business's

john 29/07/10 07:40 AM Report Abuse

abolish foreign exemption income new labour tax laws......
rudd/gillard have dug a massive debt hole by giving away money ie stimulus,
to everybody even dead people,what a blunder now they are looking to fill the massive debt hole theve created by targetting anyone who is fare game,this time mining and oilfield and anyone else who works overseas,let's not forget we live and spend our money in Australia,buy houses/cars etc when we can live anywere else in the world,with over 1 million oversees workers that's alot of money that will leave australia if something is not done,wake up politicians you are driving the experts out of australia and filling it up with refugees/muslims and anyone else who can live in aus with all the benifits don't have to work just collect payments what a life,meanwhile workers are being taxed more and more cost of living increases etc.ps bring back pauline hanson

Neil Crombie 29/07/10 05:48 PM Report Abuse

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gillard 30/07/10 10:50 PM Report Abuse

bring back the pollywaffle

gillard 30/07/10 10:55 PM Report Abuse

band homework plz for ever

RickV 02/08/10 07:07 PM Report Abuse

Hey Gillard,
Doesn't your band give you homework? Well, mine doesn't either, and I agree, bands should give homework!

RickV 02/08/10 07:10 PM Report Abuse

Well, what a useless lot of boring comments, certainly not worth taking seriously.
I get the general feeleing that most are not seriously made by Liberals.

Mervyn Jacobi 05/04/11 11:11 AM Report Abuse

I have been waiting for some years to see some indication of intelligence and integrity from the both parties, but it has been in vain. All I can see is stupidity and possibility corruption. The consistent insistence of Wayne Swan and the team to continue with this low top personal tax and low corporate tax has been destroying the economy for the last forty or so years, and was shown by the dive into the “recession we had to have” with Paul Keating about 1985. It has been followed by recessions by John Howard and Peter Costello in the '90's etc, and by Wayne Swan several times since his term as treasurer. Both the parties – Liberal and Labor have been quick to claim “Global economy” for their incompetence, inability to even recognise what and where the problem is, even though Wayne has been told several times. The Global warming issue, is another instance where even if it is actual, I cannot see where the tax intended to be applied, is going to affect any improvement at all, maybe one of your “intelligent” gang can advise me and the rest of Australia. Admittedly, the Liberal party seems to be equally ignorant of the necessities to return Australia to an economical success. We can no longer live in this hopeless tangle of stupidity, and have to look forward for a party with intelligence and integrity, and allegiance to Australia and our people. The obsession of both parties in the export of our non-renewable, non-value added resources with the reciprocal imports of all the goods we used to manufacture in Australia, clothing, tools, cars, even trains, shows that these incompetents are wholly determined in destroying the economy and whatever else still exists in our country. As you might get from this message, I and most likely many more will not be voting any more for either the Labor or the Liberal parties in future elections. I have to wonder how a gang of so called professionals can be so stupid or is it corrupt, maybe it is something they are eating or drinking, but they had better get off it quick, it might be fatal the way it is affecting them. The obvious moron remarks that both parties have in their fanatics, shows there is not much hope in either.

Mervyn Jacobi 17/06/11 02:34 PM Report Abuse

Richard M, You obviously do not have a single clue how tax levels work, a flat tax of 20% would allow the higher salary group to take higher and higher levels of income as in the US, where thousands or maybe millions of workers are out of a job, and broke while the CEO’s of the big companies have taken $ millions. The US government had to give Leymans ( I think that’s the correct spelling) $2 billion so they would have enough finance to finance housing, but the CEO of Leymans kept taking $ one million salary. We have had several types of tax, and the best tax so far was organised by Harold Holt who put the top tax up to 66.6% and had no tax on what would have been about $10,000 today, but that was not enough, the treasurers have found that the amount of taxes taken has to be about 30% of GDP and the only that can be done, is to also have no tax on about the first $30,000 it might even need to be more. Unfortunately, the intelligence of those people who get into parliament is not what you could call very wonderful.

Mervyn Jacobi 03/07/11 11:29 AM Report Abuse

AK Myrtus , Is certainly throwing the ball back at the obsessive fanatic wimps. Too many people have quickly forgotten why the Liberal Party lost the 2007 election, and the memory of its poor attacks against the Australian workers has certainly diminished in their mind, if they have one. There is no argument that the Labor party is totally devoid of concern for the Australian industries and their workers, Just the same as the Liberal. I agree with him that the Politicians, who have been in Parliament, should never have been allowed in there in the first place, and those who have been getting in should have to survive on the unemployment income, or show that they can hold onto a real job where they have to show their true value. To join any party, it seems that all you have to do is to sign a promise “that you will agree with the decisions of the majority”. Why the Majority, they are not and never ever have been the most intelligent of any community, and looking at the apparent level of intelligence of both the majority of the remarks on this site, and that of those in the political parties, they have proved my point.

Mervyn Jacobi 13/07/11 11:14 AM Report Abuse

Too many people have quickly forgotten why the Liberal Party lost the 2007 election, and the memory of its poor attacks against the Australian workers has certainly diminished in their mind. There is no argument that the Labor party is totally devoid of concern for the Australian industries and their workers, just the same as the Liberals. Their obsession has been on the export of our natural non-renewable resources, to the detriment of our own industries. The Politicians, who have been in Parliament, should never have been allowed in there in the first place, and those who have been getting in should have to survive on the unemployment income, or show that they can hold onto a real job where they have to show their true value. To join any party, it seems that all you have to do is to sign a promise “that you will agree with the decisions of the majority”. Why the Majority, they are not and never ever have been the most intelligent of any community, and looking at the apparent level of intelligence of both, they have proved my point.
To suggest that either the Labor party or the Liberal party have the necessary intelligence or integrity to properly handle the “Global Warming” if there is one, is of dubious value. Certainly there is Global warming, there have been volcanoes in Greenland, Cuba, volcanic fissures on the unstable ocean trench, and Japan has apparently seventy active volcanoes on its islands, so to suggest that the “warming” is all human generated, does seem to be more the clutching straws to save their excessive un-deserved salaries. The other Countries are suffering from the same problem, A low top tax allowing excessive incomes and high costs of goods and services, causing a bad economy and forcing wage earners out of their homes and onto the streets, you can check that yourself. The unemployment figure is a manipulated malicious figure, designed to pretend our workers are almost fully employed.
Mervyn Jacobi
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BERT 09/09/11 11:52 PM Report Abuse

GET RID OF THE GST TAX SYSTUM AND BRING IN THE 21ST DEBIT TAX SYSTUM
THIS TAX SYSTUM IS A MUCH FAIRER TAX SYSTUM AND DOSE NOT COST THE GOVERMENT MUCH TO RUN IN FACT THE GOVERMENT WILL BRING IN MUCH MORE TAX AND WILL HAVE THE NATIONAL DEPT PAID BACK MUCH QUICKER AND PLENTY LEFT OVER TO RUN THE NATION THE LEVEL IS ONLY 1% FOR EVERY DOLLAR DRAWN FRON ANY FINACHIALY BANK..
PLEASE GIVE THIS TAX SYSTUM A GO.

Mervyn Jacobi 13/10/11 09:33 AM Report Abuse

I get the impression that the Prime Ministers and Treasurers all believe that ALP means Australian Lawyer Party, and the same with the LNP, they believe it stands for Lawyers National Party, because all I see from them doing is making rules to destroy the working conditions for the actual workers and the industries they were working in.

Mervyn Jacobi 20/11/11 07:12 AM Report Abuse

Over the last forty years, despite Harold Holt’s project of increasing the top personal tax to 66.6% and being moderately successful, the later treasurers have steadily reduced the tax back to 45% and returned the economy to bordering on a recession. The fact that all the Liberal parties and most of the Labor parties have had Lawyers as both Prime Ministers and Treasurers, might not have anything to do with the fact that most of our manufacturing industries have been destroyed and our other industries mainly farming, are not too healthy.
How long can the export of our non-renewable resources last, from what I can see, there is an unholy rush to export all of these resources before someone realises that without these resources, we cannot manufacture any goods ourselves, and in the meantime our industries and the expert experience involved is being lost. I want to see the return of the 66.6% tax but with zero tax on the first $30,000, because I believe that is what is needed to return the prosperity of Australia. The reciprocal imports from our resource exports including the coal seam gas exports cannot revive the spirit of our trades men and our young people who have gone through schooling over the last ten or so years. Try to tell them otherwise. Those "Occupy Melbourne", "Occupy Sydney" and "Occupy Brisbane", are trying to force their message, many do not have a job, many can get work for only two or three days a week, and they and even thousands of full time workers are unable to buy a home because -
In 1977, the cost of an average house was $31,000, the annual average wage was $15,000, about ½ the cost of the house. Today the average cost of an average house is $430,000, seven times the annual average wage of $64,000, and all because of the 45% tax and the excessive incomes - Thousands taking in excess of $1 million and even up to $33 million which increases the costs of living extensively. The people in Parliament should have to read these remarks also, I don't believe that they do.